Comments on: Digging up Sikorski

By: Dawid

Dawid — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:56:16 +0000

Provocative, are you ;)

By: Polonium

Polonium — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:08:44 +0000

Island wrote “Would Poland have secretly bumped off Churchill if it would have made their survival more likely? They would have been idiots not to try.”

Then they would have been idiots. There is no way in hell the Poles would have assassinated Churchill to benefit themselves. If they had been worried about themselves they would have signed a nonaggression treaty with Hitler in 36-39 when he repeatedly pleaded with them to. Or they would have extorted something out of the West in exchange for the enigma instead of handing it over for free. Or they wouldn’t have fought at Monte Casino or in the Battle of Britain, dying in droves, and continuing to after the betrayal at Yalta (Tehran actually but it wasn’t public yet.)

The Poles are not the Brits. They would not assassinate a politically inconvenient ally.

By: Dawid

Dawid — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:19:57 +0000

Some Poles are overconcerned with history, some don’t give a damn about it, and some foreigners simply don’t get the cultural specificity of Polish relation with history. For decades a healthy discussion on history was impossible in Poland – this is the foundation of many actions that may look strange to the foreign eye.

By: Jacek Wesołowski

Jacek Wesołowski — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:38:30 +0000

He also died on July 4, the American Independence Day. This clearly indicates Yankees were involved.

By: Part

Part — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:09:15 +0000

Well, it was our prime minister, he died in an air crash after Katyn was discovered. If it was UK prime minister, wouldn’t you be at least courious?

By: Sylwia

Sylwia — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:10:44 +0000

Scatts, you became a true Polish conspirationalist! I really don’t think any such approval of either Kaczyński or Tusk is needed. There are prosecutors working in IPN and they can just go and ask a court directly, just as a police office doesn’t go to the president to ask for such an approval.

I think that one orders an exhumation when one knows what one is looking for, and that’s why it wasn’t done earlier. First one needs to even start an investigation, then one needs to have some suspicions in order to know what to look for, and only then there’s any sense to conduct an exhumation. Or at least so it’d seem from all the detective movies, where the first exhumation doesn’t show anything because they look for all the wrong stuff.

No matter when they do that, they would have to do it one day. Would you prefer to have the results published before the latest elections, just before the next ones, or a month from now?

By: scatts

scatts — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:26:50 +0000

Would IPN have been able to order this exhumation without the approval of either Kaczyński or Tusk?

By: domingo

domingo — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:22:31 +0000

I suppose you should rather blame overzealous IPN-officials instead of mr. Kaczynski or Tusk.

By: domingo

domingo — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:16:22 +0000

I’m aware that both our government and president are pretty far from perfection, but this time you apparently exaggerate their role in Sikorski’s case, your arguments seems to be based on political prejudices rather than common sense.
Most of you would agree that whole case has political background, but you also say that digging won’t bring any convincing evidence – and in fact you were right – it didn’t, as Scatts post says. So where’s the logic? Wouldn’t it be more convenient for politicians if the grave remained untouched?

By: scatts

scatts — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:25:58 +0000

From today’s Poland AM:

Theories suggesting that General Władysław Sikorski was assassinated appeared to have been quashed on Tuesday when a preliminary report from his autopsy was leaked to the media. According to Onet.pl, forensic experts found no gunshot wounds nor fractures consistent with strangling. Toxycology tests are still in progress that could furnish evidence of poisoning, but the National Remembrance Institute (IPN) has already come under strong criticism from leading historians, who accused the investigators of falling prey to conspiracy theories. Professor Andrzej Friszke said that the only feasible assassination plot was to damage the plane’s engine; but proving that now was next to impossible. IPN officials defended the decision to exhume the General’s remains, stressing it would, at the very least, help finally disprove the conspiracy theories. (Dziennik, p. 7)

Ania – it would be fair to say that I feel much more strongly that the Polish government is MY government than I do the British one. Believe me, my language would be considerably stronger were I writing about Gordon “Saviour of the Universe” Brown or David “What the hell do I do now” Cameron.